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Thanks for all your posts... i must admit some info has gone right over my head so i will re-read but in general would it be safe to say that it does read like a finality though... I mean if i disown something or someone i am not having anything to do with what or who they are...am i to interpret this scripture that at judgment day thats it...im disowned or could it be interpreted in context to the very people he was talking to for that time?

Kool

I would suggest that this is based on judgment, calling attention to a specific point: Objecting to or against something is to deny an allegation, declaring that the contrary is true; challenging it as false (that of another's statement, or their motives). In truth, there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden (motives) that will not be made known. After all, a man's enemies are those of his own household?

"He disavows that which has been attributed to him; disclaiming any association."

Makes one wonder about all the so called, professing teachers? However, if we endure (to hold out against), we will reign with Him; but if we deny Him, He also will deny us, as in withholding something?

Consider: "whosoever gives to (not receiving from) one of these little ones, even a cold cup of water to drink, he shall not lose his reward."

  The word deny in Hebrew (for fullness of thought) means to lie (as in not being a witness to the truth), deceive, grow LEAN, dissemble (opposite of join).

Contrast "grow LEAN", with this.......

Isaiah 58:11 KJV
And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and MAKE FAT thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

The Spirit is as the marrow of the bones, the bones are as the letter of scriptures. The blood is made in the bone marrow. His Spirit, therefore, "clothes our bones", ie. the life/revealed hidden manna of the bones comes out, which is why immortality is going to swallow up mortality.

His Word that is His breath is hidden in the bones/scriptures, ie. the hidden manna. This is why not a bone of His was broken; He kept the law perfectly as to it's spiritual intent.

So when we receive some revelation from His breath (His Spirit which IS Truth) and we WALK it out, and stand in it, we are allowing Him to put "flesh" on our bones; HIS flesh, which is as making our bones "fat" (mortality swallowed up of life).

It is forming Christ, and this is the ONLY IMAGE our Father will give His glory to, ie. WITNESS. God the Father, witnessed that Jesus Christ was His Son in heaven/realm of Spirit, by performing the words that He spoke, making them manifest in the natural = witness in earth.

This is why it says whatever you bind on earth (bound because image is NOT of God and His Christ) is bound in heaven (image of God and His Christ). In other words, God the Father will not witness to a lie (wrong image/not witnessing to the Truth), by performing our words. So if we deny Him in earth (wrong image), then He will deny (not witness to a lie) us in heaven/realm of Spirit before His Father.

So all that means is, until our witness of Him in Spirit/heaven and in Truth/earth lines up, He will do no miracles in our "city", because of our unbelief (no witness). Without faith, it is impossible to please God. It takes 2 to witness. Blessings....

hey thoughtmocker,which church was it?I see one on the miracle chan once in a while called springs? Do you know it?
anyways it seems at least someone is getting closer and closer to bc
blessings

A quick glance, looks like there's some swearing/cussing going on here  .

I agree Lee, "like hard times until you come around".

I would approach the verse/question/discussion with questioning the finality.  Just as Paul described us as once being in the world, without God and without hope.

The sheep and the coin were lost...but that wasn't a permanent condition, without any hope of future remedy.  Both were found.

The end of the Lord is merciful, much wood, hay, and stubble will be burned, flesh destroyed so spirits saved, every knee will bow, Jesus will put all enemies under His feet, the leaves of the Tree of Life will be for the healing of the nations, there will be no more pain, God will be All in All.

I try to read all such verses in light of the above.

Blessings, James.

Like Hell, NO

Like more hard times in your life until you come around, yes.

I My Opinion only

Well Im trying to reconcile the way it reads....the way it reads is that Jesus will deny others before God and therefore there would be a finality involved in that no?
Like hell.

Cheers

Jake

 this is just a note out of E-Sword Bible program

Mat 10:32-33 
Whosoever therefore shall confess me ... - The same word in the original is translated "confess" and "profess," 1Ti_6:12-13; 2Jo_1:7; Rom_10:10. It means to acknowledge the Lord Jesus Christ, and our dependence on him for salvation, and our attachment to him, in every proper manner. This profession may be made in uniting with a church, at the communion, in conversation, and in conduct. The Scriptures mean, by a profession of religion, an exhibition of it in every circumstance of the life and before all people. It is not merely in one act that we must do it, but in every act. We must be ashamed neither of the person, the character, the doctrines, nor the requirements of Christ. If we are; if we deny him in these things before people; if we are unwilling to express our attachment to him in every way possible, then it is right that he should "disown all connection with us," or deny us before God, and he will do it.

Just a pretty good link on the TM site, Bible Threatenings Explained;

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html